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		By: Energy Shifts (6) - Going Beyond Limits To Growth (Newly Updated) &#124; Gypsy Café		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] During a materialistic epoch, such as the one that we are in, it would be natural for civilizations to generally tend towards material growth because humans are to a large extent bound by the dominant cyclic energies of the ages in which they find themselves (see Part 5).  [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] During a materialistic epoch, such as the one that we are in, it would be natural for civilizations to generally tend towards material growth because humans are to a large extent bound by the dominant cyclic energies of the ages in which they find themselves (see Part 5).  [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: (6) Going Beyond Limits To Growth [Newly Updated] &#8211; Energy Shifts		</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] organically, a new ethic could potentially be arrived at naturally, (as discussed in Parts 3 and 5), but that would require a shift in the metaphysical energy of the age which would result in a [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Debra		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Debra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2018 05:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gypsycafe.org/2018/07/14/the-yin-and-yang-of-growth-and-the-great-shift/#comment-40157&quot;&gt;Jean-Jacques&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Jacques! Now that I&#039;m more familiar with Chicchan, that&#039;s a lot of energy going on with your Kin. This has been such an energetic 2 trecenas. 

Debra]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gypsycafe.org/2018/07/14/the-yin-and-yang-of-growth-and-the-great-shift/#comment-40157">Jean-Jacques</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Jacques! Now that I&#8217;m more familiar with Chicchan, that&#8217;s a lot of energy going on with your Kin. This has been such an energetic 2 trecenas. </p>
<p>Debra</p>
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		By: Jean-Jacques		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jean-Jacques]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2018 23:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gypsycafe.org/2018/07/14/the-yin-and-yang-of-growth-and-the-great-shift/#comment-40152&quot;&gt;Debra&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks so much Debra! It&#039;s 8! Just got 
this now. You are very welcome. I really 
hope it&#039;s a Dream Come True! Already 
looking forward to reading all about 
it! :-)

in lak’ech, 
Jacques]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gypsycafe.org/2018/07/14/the-yin-and-yang-of-growth-and-the-great-shift/#comment-40152">Debra</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks so much Debra! It&#8217;s 8! Just got<br />
this now. You are very welcome. I really<br />
hope it&#8217;s a Dream Come True! Already<br />
looking forward to reading all about<br />
it! 🙂</p>
<p>in lak’ech,<br />
Jacques</p>
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		By: Debra		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Debra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2018 05:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gypsycafe.org/2018/07/14/the-yin-and-yang-of-growth-and-the-great-shift/#comment-40084&quot;&gt;Jean-Jacques&lt;/a&gt;.

Happy Mayan Birthday! I wrestled over when it was Tone 8 or 9. Either one seems more powerful 4 rounds later. I am just now seeing a reply that didn&#039;t come through my email, so glad I stopped by.

Thanks for your insights on the locations. The dream has been twisting and turning all over the place, and I believe I have the courage to go alone if it&#039;s meant to be a solo Jaguar journey. 

Blessings to  you for a new round of blessings. love, in lak&#039;ech, Debra]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gypsycafe.org/2018/07/14/the-yin-and-yang-of-growth-and-the-great-shift/#comment-40084">Jean-Jacques</a>.</p>
<p>Happy Mayan Birthday! I wrestled over when it was Tone 8 or 9. Either one seems more powerful 4 rounds later. I am just now seeing a reply that didn&#8217;t come through my email, so glad I stopped by.</p>
<p>Thanks for your insights on the locations. The dream has been twisting and turning all over the place, and I believe I have the courage to go alone if it&#8217;s meant to be a solo Jaguar journey. </p>
<p>Blessings to  you for a new round of blessings. love, in lak&#8217;ech, Debra</p>
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		By: Jean-Jacques		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jean-Jacques]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2018 17:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gypsycafe.org/2018/07/14/the-yin-and-yang-of-growth-and-the-great-shift/#comment-40100&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

Richard, thanks for your input. Fascinating indeed! The idea that there could have been humans centuries ago that were much more advanced than us boggles the mind, because most people are linear-thinkers. We don&#039;t have a cyclical framework in order to naturally conceptualize the rise and fall of consciousness which would mean the rise and fall of intelligence too. 

What is fascinating is if we look at the time the Roman Empire collapsed - it coincided with human consciousness dropping to its lowest point. One can imagine that under such circumstances people lost the capacity to maintain such an advanced civilization as consciousness continued to diminish. 

Interestingly the period of Enlightenment in Europe started up just after Kali Yuga ended, around 1750 - so just as consciousness started rising again metaphysically, it manifested in practice: &quot; *to advance ideals like liberty, progress, tolerance, fraternity, constitutional government and separation of church and state&quot;  [*quoted from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Enlightenment   ]
More thoughts on this in my next chapter. 

I think you may be right about all of the knowledge coming from a common knowledge source that reigned during the previous Golden Age on the descending arc of the Great Year. 
In &#039;The Book of Destiny&#039; by Carlos Barrios, a Maya Priest and spokesperson, he explains that the Mayans are descendants of a mother civilization called Tula (or Tulan) - and this civilization was located on a continent, now gone, in the middle of the Atlantic - and it was the mother civilization of tribes i n India, Tibet, part of the Mediterranean and North Africa. 

Amazing stuff - thanks for visiting!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gypsycafe.org/2018/07/14/the-yin-and-yang-of-growth-and-the-great-shift/#comment-40100">Richard</a>.</p>
<p>Richard, thanks for your input. Fascinating indeed! The idea that there could have been humans centuries ago that were much more advanced than us boggles the mind, because most people are linear-thinkers. We don&#8217;t have a cyclical framework in order to naturally conceptualize the rise and fall of consciousness which would mean the rise and fall of intelligence too. </p>
<p>What is fascinating is if we look at the time the Roman Empire collapsed &#8211; it coincided with human consciousness dropping to its lowest point. One can imagine that under such circumstances people lost the capacity to maintain such an advanced civilization as consciousness continued to diminish. </p>
<p>Interestingly the period of Enlightenment in Europe started up just after Kali Yuga ended, around 1750 &#8211; so just as consciousness started rising again metaphysically, it manifested in practice: &#8221; *to advance ideals like liberty, progress, tolerance, fraternity, constitutional government and separation of church and state&#8221;  [*quoted from: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Enlightenment" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Enlightenment</a>   ]<br />
More thoughts on this in my next chapter. </p>
<p>I think you may be right about all of the knowledge coming from a common knowledge source that reigned during the previous Golden Age on the descending arc of the Great Year.<br />
In &#8216;The Book of Destiny&#8217; by Carlos Barrios, a Maya Priest and spokesperson, he explains that the Mayans are descendants of a mother civilization called Tula (or Tulan) &#8211; and this civilization was located on a continent, now gone, in the middle of the Atlantic &#8211; and it was the mother civilization of tribes i n India, Tibet, part of the Mediterranean and North Africa. </p>
<p>Amazing stuff &#8211; thanks for visiting!</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2018 14:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The idea of the rise and fall of civilizations throughout earth history being governed by great cycles of materialistic and spiritual energy that influence our levels of consciousness is fascinating. Where did they learn such advanced knowledge?  It wasn’t until the 1920’s that Edward Hubble showed that the Milky Way was just one galaxy. 

The fact that the Vedic Great Year and Mayan Calendars are so similar is striking. My feeling is that the Mayans and Indians both learned of the Great Year from a common source - one that they were both part of in the distant past before migrating to Mesoamerica and India - such as the ancient lost continent of Mu (known as Kumari Kandam in India) who in turn learned of the great year from the  ‘sky people’ who feature so strongly in the Anasazi and Mayan cultures and mythology.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea of the rise and fall of civilizations throughout earth history being governed by great cycles of materialistic and spiritual energy that influence our levels of consciousness is fascinating. Where did they learn such advanced knowledge?  It wasn’t until the 1920’s that Edward Hubble showed that the Milky Way was just one galaxy. </p>
<p>The fact that the Vedic Great Year and Mayan Calendars are so similar is striking. My feeling is that the Mayans and Indians both learned of the Great Year from a common source &#8211; one that they were both part of in the distant past before migrating to Mesoamerica and India &#8211; such as the ancient lost continent of Mu (known as Kumari Kandam in India) who in turn learned of the great year from the  ‘sky people’ who feature so strongly in the Anasazi and Mayan cultures and mythology.</p>
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		By: Jean-Jacques		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jean-Jacques]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2018 19:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Katherine, thank you for your comment and your feedback. 
Your two last paragraphs are very well said and I can only 
fully agree. Yes, in Uruguay things are a bit slower, but 
I have been told that the way of life here used to be much,
much slower just a decade or two ago, so this little 
country is also speeding up. Fortunately it&#039;s still very 
community and family oriented, which means it has a foundation 
still in place which could be returned to, should it become necessary. 

On the point of The Age of Aquarius - according to Laurie Pratt (aka 
Tara Mata), the author or &#039;Astrological World Cycles&#039; - the main source 
that I used for my article - The Age of Aquarius will only start later 
in Dwapara Yuga, our present Bronze Age, about 620 years from now, more 
or less. You can download the file [Astrological World Cycles Pdf] from 
the &#039;Bibliography &amp; Further Reading&#039; below the article - have a look at 
Page 56, - see paragraph 1. 

However, this Bronze Age is known as &#039;the electric age&#039; and the &#039;age of 
the atom&#039; and the The Age of Aquarius will start during this Bronze Age - 
I would interpret that as being the time when the higher, more advanced 
characteristics of the energy will be activated.  So, although we have 
already seen a lot of  technological and scientific advancement and 
electronics, these developments happened under the material influence of 
Kali Yuga. There are much higher level developments to come, but for the 
moment those developments are beyond our reach. Virtually all of our 
present technologies rely on energy derived from fossil fuels, so most 
likely it will be &#039;back to the drawing board&#039; as we run out of especially 
liquid fossil fuels in future decades. 

Most likely the “higher mind” communication, including mental telepathy, 
and the brotherhood of man that you refer to will all come to pass and 
will develop later in the age as well - and all of this is in fact 
predicted to happen during Dwapara Yuga, so it correlates very well 
with what is said to be the characteristics of the Age of Aquarius, 
it&#039;s just that we are not quite there yet... but we are on our way! 

Always a pleasure to discuss with you Katherine - have been quiet lately, 
doing research and writing this article, which I have found much more 
interesting and fulfilling than engaging in all the identity politics 
going around.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katherine, thank you for your comment and your feedback.<br />
Your two last paragraphs are very well said and I can only<br />
fully agree. Yes, in Uruguay things are a bit slower, but<br />
I have been told that the way of life here used to be much,<br />
much slower just a decade or two ago, so this little<br />
country is also speeding up. Fortunately it&#8217;s still very<br />
community and family oriented, which means it has a foundation<br />
still in place which could be returned to, should it become necessary. </p>
<p>On the point of The Age of Aquarius &#8211; according to Laurie Pratt (aka<br />
Tara Mata), the author or &#8216;Astrological World Cycles&#8217; &#8211; the main source<br />
that I used for my article &#8211; The Age of Aquarius will only start later<br />
in Dwapara Yuga, our present Bronze Age, about 620 years from now, more<br />
or less. You can download the file [Astrological World Cycles Pdf] from<br />
the &#8216;Bibliography &#038; Further Reading&#8217; below the article &#8211; have a look at<br />
Page 56, &#8211; see paragraph 1. </p>
<p>However, this Bronze Age is known as &#8216;the electric age&#8217; and the &#8216;age of<br />
the atom&#8217; and the The Age of Aquarius will start during this Bronze Age &#8211;<br />
I would interpret that as being the time when the higher, more advanced<br />
characteristics of the energy will be activated.  So, although we have<br />
already seen a lot of  technological and scientific advancement and<br />
electronics, these developments happened under the material influence of<br />
Kali Yuga. There are much higher level developments to come, but for the<br />
moment those developments are beyond our reach. Virtually all of our<br />
present technologies rely on energy derived from fossil fuels, so most<br />
likely it will be &#8216;back to the drawing board&#8217; as we run out of especially<br />
liquid fossil fuels in future decades. </p>
<p>Most likely the “higher mind” communication, including mental telepathy,<br />
and the brotherhood of man that you refer to will all come to pass and<br />
will develop later in the age as well &#8211; and all of this is in fact<br />
predicted to happen during Dwapara Yuga, so it correlates very well<br />
with what is said to be the characteristics of the Age of Aquarius,<br />
it&#8217;s just that we are not quite there yet&#8230; but we are on our way! </p>
<p>Always a pleasure to discuss with you Katherine &#8211; have been quiet lately,<br />
doing research and writing this article, which I have found much more<br />
interesting and fulfilling than engaging in all the identity politics<br />
going around.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Katharine Otto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2018 17:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jean-Jacques,
You&#039;ve been silent awhile.  This is an engaging post, obviously well researched.  I watched both videos and was struck by the correlations with astrology, too.   The precession of the equinoxes correlates with the astrological ages, as mentioned in one of the videos.  The Age of Aquarius, which we are entering now, is a 2000-2,400-year cycle that is linked with technological and scientific advancement, electronics, &quot;higher mind&quot; communication, including mental telepathy, and the brotherhood of man.  

Interestingly, Aquarius is co-ruled by Saturn and Uranus, planets of structure and chaos, respectively.  I interpret this to mean it will necessitate flexible structure within chaos.

Your comments about material energy, such as fossil fuels, suggests to me we need to find new ways of relating to energy, meaning slowing down and being more conservative in our use and demand.  For instance, it seems most energy is used in transportation and shipping, to serve materialistic ends.  People seem in a frenzied hurry to move from place to place, to what purpose?  In other words, I think we need to show respect for the energy itself and not waste it in such frivolities as consumerism and single-use packaging.  In Uruguay you have the luxury of a simpler lifestyle than we have in the US.

Finally, the take-home message for me is that we each individually have the capacity to grow in understanding, no matter what the spiritual cycle of the planet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jean-Jacques,<br />
You&#8217;ve been silent awhile.  This is an engaging post, obviously well researched.  I watched both videos and was struck by the correlations with astrology, too.   The precession of the equinoxes correlates with the astrological ages, as mentioned in one of the videos.  The Age of Aquarius, which we are entering now, is a 2000-2,400-year cycle that is linked with technological and scientific advancement, electronics, &#8220;higher mind&#8221; communication, including mental telepathy, and the brotherhood of man.  </p>
<p>Interestingly, Aquarius is co-ruled by Saturn and Uranus, planets of structure and chaos, respectively.  I interpret this to mean it will necessitate flexible structure within chaos.</p>
<p>Your comments about material energy, such as fossil fuels, suggests to me we need to find new ways of relating to energy, meaning slowing down and being more conservative in our use and demand.  For instance, it seems most energy is used in transportation and shipping, to serve materialistic ends.  People seem in a frenzied hurry to move from place to place, to what purpose?  In other words, I think we need to show respect for the energy itself and not waste it in such frivolities as consumerism and single-use packaging.  In Uruguay you have the luxury of a simpler lifestyle than we have in the US.</p>
<p>Finally, the take-home message for me is that we each individually have the capacity to grow in understanding, no matter what the spiritual cycle of the planet.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jean-Jacques]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2018 12:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Josh, thanks for the feedback. It was my research about the nature of the shift that we are going through that lead me to delve into the Yuga Cycles and The Great Year . It is indeed amazing how they are aligned in some respects. On the other hand they also seem to measure different aspects of energy changes. 

Having more than one system to refer to for world changes is very useful in the context of this series. In the next chapter I will be using both the Maya Calendars and Great Year to look at present and future material energy transitions, i.e. fossil fuels &amp; renewables - and how that would affect us.  I was going to include all of it in this article, but it would have been too long and would have been too much information all at once. 

I have added a clip of a short interview with Gregg Braden above (below the post) where he explains the correlation of the Maya Calendars and the Great Year and also how that relates to the changes we are going through - worth watching. 
The Great Year documentary above I think also provides for greater understanding in how the energy processes in the universe work. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh, thanks for the feedback. It was my research about the nature of the shift that we are going through that lead me to delve into the Yuga Cycles and The Great Year . It is indeed amazing how they are aligned in some respects. On the other hand they also seem to measure different aspects of energy changes. </p>
<p>Having more than one system to refer to for world changes is very useful in the context of this series. In the next chapter I will be using both the Maya Calendars and Great Year to look at present and future material energy transitions, i.e. fossil fuels &#038; renewables &#8211; and how that would affect us.  I was going to include all of it in this article, but it would have been too long and would have been too much information all at once. </p>
<p>I have added a clip of a short interview with Gregg Braden above (below the post) where he explains the correlation of the Maya Calendars and the Great Year and also how that relates to the changes we are going through &#8211; worth watching.<br />
The Great Year documentary above I think also provides for greater understanding in how the energy processes in the universe work. </p>
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