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		By: Peak Oil in the Spotlight &#124; Gypsy Café		</title>
		<link>https://gypsycafe.org/2018/09/06/there-are-no-limits-to-growth/#comment-106653</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peak Oil in the Spotlight &#124; Gypsy Café]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] remains unclear since not all economies, sectors or regions are the same, but as highlighted in another essay 44, the reality is that few people are prepared to willingly give up modernity, which is to be [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] remains unclear since not all economies, sectors or regions are the same, but as highlighted in another essay 44, the reality is that few people are prepared to willingly give up modernity, which is to be [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Jean-Jacques		</title>
		<link>https://gypsycafe.org/2018/09/06/there-are-no-limits-to-growth/#comment-40910</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jean-Jacques]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2018 20:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gypsycafe.org/2018/09/06/there-are-no-limits-to-growth/#comment-40907&quot;&gt;My Anasa&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for your comment. I had a look at your blog. Nice photos of your time in Skopje!
Best wishes,
Jean-Jacques]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gypsycafe.org/2018/09/06/there-are-no-limits-to-growth/#comment-40907">My Anasa</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you for your comment. I had a look at your blog. Nice photos of your time in Skopje!<br />
Best wishes,<br />
Jean-Jacques</p>
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		By: My Anasa		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2018 16:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is an interesting and inspiring post! You have an awesome site. I hope you will visit my travel blog: https://my-anasa.com/
Thank you!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is an interesting and inspiring post! You have an awesome site. I hope you will visit my travel blog: <a href="https://my-anasa.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://my-anasa.com/</a><br />
Thank you!</p>
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		By: Jean-Jacques		</title>
		<link>https://gypsycafe.org/2018/09/06/there-are-no-limits-to-growth/#comment-40448</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jean-Jacques]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2018 15:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gypsycafe.org/2018/09/06/there-are-no-limits-to-growth/#comment-40439&quot;&gt;Brigido Anaya&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you very much for your feedback, Mr Anaya and for the excellent link you posted. The self-provisioning farm, combined with other manual work, while using little or limited energy sounds like the model we need to return to. The upside is that we already have generations behind us that lived that way, so we won&#039;t exactly need to pioneer anything new. It would just be &quot;back to the future&quot;. Although the tricky part is of course that very few city-dwellers would know (or want to know) the first thing about farming. It may be a counter-intuitive thought, but the future lies in traditional farming, not high technology...  

 William Cobbett&#039;s &quot;radical nostalgia&quot; sounds like just the mindset we need. Hopefully people will come to realize that returning to the land could be the best possible insurance policy that they could take out.  

BTW, you have one of the most informative blogs on the web. Thank you for sharing your life journeys and your knowledge. 

Jean-Jacques]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gypsycafe.org/2018/09/06/there-are-no-limits-to-growth/#comment-40439">Brigido Anaya</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you very much for your feedback, Mr Anaya and for the excellent link you posted. The self-provisioning farm, combined with other manual work, while using little or limited energy sounds like the model we need to return to. The upside is that we already have generations behind us that lived that way, so we won&#8217;t exactly need to pioneer anything new. It would just be &#8220;back to the future&#8221;. Although the tricky part is of course that very few city-dwellers would know (or want to know) the first thing about farming. It may be a counter-intuitive thought, but the future lies in traditional farming, not high technology&#8230;  </p>
<p> William Cobbett&#8217;s &#8220;radical nostalgia&#8221; sounds like just the mindset we need. Hopefully people will come to realize that returning to the land could be the best possible insurance policy that they could take out.  </p>
<p>BTW, you have one of the most informative blogs on the web. Thank you for sharing your life journeys and your knowledge. </p>
<p>Jean-Jacques</p>
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		By: Brigido Anaya		</title>
		<link>https://gypsycafe.org/2018/09/06/there-are-no-limits-to-growth/#comment-40439</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brigido Anaya]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2018 15:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Magnificent work, and totally agree with your thesis, ironically just before reading your post I was reading an article of the New York Review of Books, rather than go into along explanation, I send you the link: 

https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2018/09/27/green-pleasant-land-family-farm/

:-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Magnificent work, and totally agree with your thesis, ironically just before reading your post I was reading an article of the New York Review of Books, rather than go into along explanation, I send you the link: </p>
<p><a href="https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2018/09/27/green-pleasant-land-family-farm/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2018/09/27/green-pleasant-land-family-farm/</a></p>
<p>🙂</p>
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		By: Debra		</title>
		<link>https://gypsycafe.org/2018/09/06/there-are-no-limits-to-growth/#comment-40370</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Debra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2018 18:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gypsycafe.org/2018/09/06/there-are-no-limits-to-growth/#comment-40361&quot;&gt;Jean-Jacques&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks so much for all you shared info and replies - I&#039;m just now seeing. I will check out the Ananda links. I was grateful for your insight shared from Barrios. Knowing I will experience these places, I&#039;ve already begun to imagine the scale of their presence. Thank you for defining it as a Sacred Exchange. 

much love, in lak&#039;ech, Debra]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gypsycafe.org/2018/09/06/there-are-no-limits-to-growth/#comment-40361">Jean-Jacques</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks so much for all you shared info and replies &#8211; I&#8217;m just now seeing. I will check out the Ananda links. I was grateful for your insight shared from Barrios. Knowing I will experience these places, I&#8217;ve already begun to imagine the scale of their presence. Thank you for defining it as a Sacred Exchange. </p>
<p>much love, in lak&#8217;ech, Debra</p>
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		By: Jean-Jacques		</title>
		<link>https://gypsycafe.org/2018/09/06/there-are-no-limits-to-growth/#comment-40361</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jean-Jacques]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2018 22:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gypsycafe.org/2018/09/06/there-are-no-limits-to-growth/#comment-40360&quot;&gt;Jean-Jacques&lt;/a&gt;.

PS: I think you may enjoy this Ananda seminar recently recorded about how to cope with our uncertain times and how to spiral upwards, energetically - see from 08.00 mins onward: 
[ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzIgx0WGTAk ] ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gypsycafe.org/2018/09/06/there-are-no-limits-to-growth/#comment-40360">Jean-Jacques</a>.</p>
<p>PS: I think you may enjoy this Ananda seminar recently recorded about how to cope with our uncertain times and how to spiral upwards, energetically &#8211; see from 08.00 mins onward:<br />
[ <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzIgx0WGTAk" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzIgx0WGTAk</a> ] </p>
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		By: Jean-Jacques		</title>
		<link>https://gypsycafe.org/2018/09/06/there-are-no-limits-to-growth/#comment-40360</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jean-Jacques]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2018 22:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gypsycafe.org/2018/09/06/there-are-no-limits-to-growth/#comment-40357&quot;&gt;Debra&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Debra! Looks very interesting - looking forward to watching it over the weekend (it looks quite long). What you said reminds of something I read, I think in &#039;The Book of Destiny&#039; by Carlos Barrios, where he mentions that those who feel a calling should visit ancient sacred sites to engage with the energy in these places, and that doing that also has the effect of activating the energy at these sites. Should be fascinating to learn more on the subject.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gypsycafe.org/2018/09/06/there-are-no-limits-to-growth/#comment-40357">Debra</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Debra! Looks very interesting &#8211; looking forward to watching it over the weekend (it looks quite long). What you said reminds of something I read, I think in &#8216;The Book of Destiny&#8217; by Carlos Barrios, where he mentions that those who feel a calling should visit ancient sacred sites to engage with the energy in these places, and that doing that also has the effect of activating the energy at these sites. Should be fascinating to learn more on the subject.</p>
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		By: Jean-Jacques		</title>
		<link>https://gypsycafe.org/2018/09/06/there-are-no-limits-to-growth/#comment-40359</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jean-Jacques]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2018 22:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gypsycafe.org/2018/09/06/there-are-no-limits-to-growth/#comment-40356&quot;&gt;Debra&lt;/a&gt;.

Debra, thank you for your thoughts and insights. I think most of us who have been around for a while can remember a time when life was simpler and less complex. It is, perhaps, only the very recent generations, namely Y and Z that have no such memories due to all the technology they grew up with (except for those who grew up in rural areas or on farms - maybe). 

The interesting thing is that the reason why we want more, more, more... has to do with the characteristics of the metaphysical energy of our age -  Dwapara Yuga - the age is still young, so that is also reflected in our own immaturity. 

Energetically we haven&#039;t yet progressed to being able to contain ourselves very well, so we find it hard to hold back once we get going... here are a few insights by an Ananda master on the topic:
https://www.ananda.org/ask/ignorance-in-dwapara-yuga-present-age/ 

I too believe that returning to a slower and simpler way of life in future will be a blessing in disguise, and it will bring a return of &quot;the best in us&quot; as you said - there will be space and time for it to flourish again - as idealistic as that may sound. We have become thoroughly corrupted over time through materialism, but as we pull out of it metaphysically some of our deeper and higher essence will return and flow back into us.

 in lak’ech,
Jacques]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gypsycafe.org/2018/09/06/there-are-no-limits-to-growth/#comment-40356">Debra</a>.</p>
<p>Debra, thank you for your thoughts and insights. I think most of us who have been around for a while can remember a time when life was simpler and less complex. It is, perhaps, only the very recent generations, namely Y and Z that have no such memories due to all the technology they grew up with (except for those who grew up in rural areas or on farms &#8211; maybe). </p>
<p>The interesting thing is that the reason why we want more, more, more&#8230; has to do with the characteristics of the metaphysical energy of our age &#8211;  Dwapara Yuga &#8211; the age is still young, so that is also reflected in our own immaturity. </p>
<p>Energetically we haven&#8217;t yet progressed to being able to contain ourselves very well, so we find it hard to hold back once we get going&#8230; here are a few insights by an Ananda master on the topic:<br />
<a href="https://www.ananda.org/ask/ignorance-in-dwapara-yuga-present-age/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.ananda.org/ask/ignorance-in-dwapara-yuga-present-age/</a> </p>
<p>I too believe that returning to a slower and simpler way of life in future will be a blessing in disguise, and it will bring a return of &#8220;the best in us&#8221; as you said &#8211; there will be space and time for it to flourish again &#8211; as idealistic as that may sound. We have become thoroughly corrupted over time through materialism, but as we pull out of it metaphysically some of our deeper and higher essence will return and flow back into us.</p>
<p> in lak’ech,<br />
Jacques</p>
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		By: Debra		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Debra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2018 07:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z5J83vOs04
A very interesting video by Drunvalo regarding the geomancy created by the pyramids for the purpose of establishing a vibrational spiritual grid upon which human could evolve to a higher state.]]></description>
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A very interesting video by Drunvalo regarding the geomancy created by the pyramids for the purpose of establishing a vibrational spiritual grid upon which human could evolve to a higher state.</p>
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